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Post by Jingshen on Dec 1, 2004 15:28:53 GMT -5
Heya Glenn, sorry about the new thread, for some reason the reply page kept erroring so ill put it in here... Your right, but they are not styles, they are parts - Sanda or Sanshou is the full contact fighting style of wushu fought on a lai tai (www.sanshou.com) Then there is taolu which are routines performed on a carpet like you saw on the video Taolu is split into many different styles with the Taijiquan (Tai Chi) included in this. The main parts are split into southern and northen wushu - i do northern while chase does southern - each with its weapons. there are ten main styles of wushu being: Chang Quan - northern boxing NAn Quan - southern boxing Qiang shu - spear play Jian shu - sword play dao shu - saber play gun shu - cudgel play nan gun - southern cudgel nan dao - southern broadsword TAijiquan - tai chi fist Taijijian - tai chi sword ... wushu taolu also has a lot of acrobatic bits in them to and several more exotic styles like dunken sword and tumbling fist... If you want to see any more vids www.wushuonefamily.com has some great vids of the athletes that performed at this years euros...check out Vladimir and A Koval...superstars! lol... Our 3 man wasnt the best we learnt it in a week haha !! lol... One crash course in wushu intro lolol... Holland have a very good wushu team housing a european champion and some very top athletes... hope that was of some use...if you want to know any more/ anythign more specific just shout Jingshen oooo ps im the green one lol
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Post by Spike on Dec 4, 2004 1:49:18 GMT -5
VERY helpfull mate, thats interesting for me, keep posting any info on Wushu if you can. thanx
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Post by fogs on Jan 17, 2005 3:22:21 GMT -5
Jingshen, What can i expect from a class teaching Tai-Chi and Qigong. Yang and Chen style. Been searching around the net and my local class teaches Tai-Chi and Qigong. Yang and Chen style havnt been able to find much info about this tech. What i have found says Qigong is slow and meditative, which i dont mind but ideally i'de want a style that combined ground work with the dynamic and flowing movements along with the energy and meditative stuff.
Have you any advice for a beginner looking for a way into the sport. Dont want spend time going to different clubs to find out what style suits me. It's difficult to get a grip of all the terms for styles there seems to be hundreds.
I Like what i've seen on the video's and would like to be able to do the same stuff in Parkour. Would you say there are particular Wushu styles that are of more benifit to improving Parkour technique.
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Post by Jingshen on Jan 17, 2005 8:57:31 GMT -5
There are five main Taijichuan styles Chen, Yang, Wu, Sun and Woo which all vary in pace, duration etc Tai Chi is a Chinese exercise system which uses slow, smooth body movements to achieve a state of relaxation of both body and mind. It builds up a lot of strength. Whereas qi gong is a Chinese Exercise system the focuses on cultivating and attracting "Qi" or "lifeforce" energies, which emphasizes the practice of breath; "still" qigong, which stresses meditation and relaxation; "standing stance" qigong, which emphasizes external movement combined with internal quiet and practice in control of the mind; as well as various forms of self-massage. You can expect to do a lot of breathing exercises and slowed down but intense techniques. Chen is the original of these arts and Yang style is a derivative of chen style... For a beginner you just need to practise the basics a lot as well as soem stretches, gentle to start with...this makes up a big part of wushu of any style...i do my basics for at least an hour every day... Do you mean our wushu videos? Of them we do a mix of nan quan and chang chuan which are external styles..but nay style of wushu will help parkour... Hmmmm tough dynamic as well...you would be best maybe doing shaolin wushu with qigong as well or a mix of internal and external wushu styles... check out www.wushuonefamly.com and www.taichionline.com for any further info... whereabouts are you from?? Sorry i cant be of much help...my mind is a bit tired with all the revision for exams this week... Wushu styles that would improve - nanquan and chang chuan = power and speed, jian shu and tai chi for fluid movements...balance - all northern and internal styles... any questions dont hesitate to ask...ill attempt to answer it better...
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Post by fogs on Jan 18, 2005 3:16:43 GMT -5
Jingshen, thanks for taking time out from revision really appreciate it. I share my time between Hounslow/Hackney. Hounslow during the week for work and Hackney at weekends for relax and play. Slowly becoming familliar with the terminology of Wushu, However it's still difficult to remember what means what. Think i've found a venue that fits in with my current situation pretty well. Found a place to train in Stoke-Newington that is very local to me for weekends think it might be a little expensive but the teachers qualifications seem pretty good (take a look and let me know what you think) I'm sure it must be better to pay a little extra for a superior teacher. There are two sessions running consecutively for total of three hours, 1.5 hours of ZhanZhuang and Chansigong. then 1.5 hours of LaoJia Chentaiji long form www.movingeast.co.uk/tai_chi.htmlI'de be interested in anything you have to say about these Styles/form. cheers fogs.
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Post by Jingshen on Jan 19, 2005 16:55:46 GMT -5
Site looks alright =) chen taiji is what i do and is pretty cool!!
chan si gong i think is another way of saying qi gong..so thats all cool..i havnt practised there myself or know anyone that has so id go down and check it out, see if its what you want to do =) most coaches will take the time out to discuss how they think they can help what you want to reach...
As your in london there are some good wushu schools..YiDao are very good and there is British Institue for Chinese Martial Arts that teaches Chin Woo, there is also the Dreaming Dragon..but they are a bit expensive..im think dreaming dragon do taiji...ill speak to some friends i have in london to see if they know about it and get back to you...
Good Luck =)
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Post by fogs on Jan 19, 2005 17:23:26 GMT -5
Thanks again. Have you heard of The basement, a club in Stoke-newington, the write-up i read about the place gave me the impression that it is a tough place (for want of a better term) which doesnt seem to fit in with the principals of Wushu maybe i have the wrong impression. I'll go and check it out to get a feel for the place. I appreciate any info/advice you pass on. fogs.
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Post by fogs on Jan 19, 2005 18:31:37 GMT -5
Excuse my ignorance, does either chen taiji or chan si gong teach Wushu and its movements and techniques. It's difficult to ascertain what each style incorporates, is either of these disciplines likely to add to my ability to do the tricky moves in Parkour; jumping, spinning, acrobatics. Dont get me wrong i'm not looking for a quick fix back-flip class I've wanted to get into 'Kung fu' for a long time, ever since i watched the TV series years ago. When i was young i used to fantasies about being trained in a budhist monestry. Previously i havnt been ready for the spiritual side of Wushu, now synchronicity has pulled together a desire for Parkour and its techniques together with a long held desire for Wushu and its physical and spiritual disciplins. Am i likely to get a similar basic introduction into Wushu whichever class i attend. Is it the case that there are basic techniques that have to be learned before being taught any of the specifics techniques of a particular style. Should i simply find a good club to start with to get a grounding in the basic principals, techniques and styles then be more descerning in finding a club to teach the particular style that i think is more appropriate to what im looking for? Am i answering my own questions?
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Post by Jingshen on Jan 21, 2005 8:12:43 GMT -5
www.wushucentral.com/videos/v.php/international if you view the video called iwuf olympic promo, it will give you a good view of what the different syles of wushu are about... It all depends on what you want to do with it, most classes that teach the standard northern and southern external wushu will aslo do internal tai chi and qi gong..though i have a feeling what you are lookign for is more of an external art...everything will help parkour, BUT i would sya the external arts will be more benefical due to developign greater power and dynamic spring and movement .. Northern wushu is a superb practise for acrobatics spins and flips with butter fly twists, aerial twists, inner jump 720 becoming standard movements.. and southern wushu is incorparating movements such as the gainer etc... There are basic techniques but they may be geared towards your body type and so style.. see www.wushuonefamily.com for more info...=)
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